Enrollment
448
New York · 2024-25 NCES data
Other / mixed grade configuration · New York, NY
Ps 165 Robert E Simon
Federal NCES profile for Ps 165 Robert E Simon, including enrollment, faculty, free-lunch eligibility, demographics, and resource indicators - Resource Investment Index 26/100.
2024-25 NCES dataOther / mixed grade configurationNCES 360007802591
👥 S:T ratio 42
🌟 Gifted program 30
📋 Attendance 5
Scored 0–100 from federal NCES and CRDC indicators, resource allocation, not test scores. Full methodology →
The verdict
Ps 165 Robert E Simon earns 26/100 on the Resource Investment Index, with class sizes larger than 84% of New York schools. It is also more racially and ethnically mixed than most New York schools.
- #142 of 164
- schools in New York · Resource Index
- 26
- Resource Index · Lower
- 14.5:1
- large classes for New York
- 58.7%
- free-lunch eligible
Ps 165 Robert E Simon has class sizes larger than 84% of New York schools. Computed live against every New York school reporting to NCES.
By Resource Investment Index, Ps 165 Robert E Simon ranks #142 of 164 schools in New York, NY.
School address
District: New York City Geographic District # 3 · New York
NCES ID 360007802591 Verify on NCES CCD record →
Teachers (FTE)
31.0
Federal CCD staff survey
Students per teacher
14.5:1
vs 11.8:1 New York avg
+23% vs state
Free-lunch eligible
58.7%
vs 56.2% New York avg
+4% vs state
Student-teacher ratio in context
How Ps 165 Robert E Simon compares with New York and U.S. medians
What stands out at Ps 165 Robert E Simon
Ps 165 Robert E Simon is a higher-need, mid-sized combined-grade school in New York, New York, enrolling 448 students.
Class loads run somewhat heavier than typical: 14.5:1 puts it in the larger third of New York schools by student-teacher ratio.
Its free-meal eligibility rate of 58.7% lands close to the New York typical range, neither a high- nor low-need campus by this measure.
With 448 students, its enrollment sits close to the New York median campus size.
Its Resource Investment Index lands in the lower third of 4,801 scored New York schools.
Among 753 similarly sized, similarly resourced-need New York schools statewide, it ranks #621, in the lower tier once campus size and economic need are matched.
Its student body is led by Hispanic or Latino (45%) and White (28%), more mixed than most schools in the state (diversity index 69/100).
Chronic absenteeism is elevated: 37.9% of students missed 10% or more of school days (2021-22 Civil Rights Data Collection).
New York City Geographic District # 3 also operates Fiorello H Laguardia High School (2,251 students) and Beacon High School (1,372 students) alongside Ps 165 Robert E Simon.
Sourced from NCES CCD, CRDC, and F-33 (federal records, not a quality verdict). How we source and compute this.
Source: National Center for Education Statistics Common Core of Data + CRDC + F-33 · 2024-25
How Ps 165 Robert E Simon compares
Ps 165 Robert E Simon on the metrics families compare, against New York and U.S. means.
| Metric | This school | vs New York | New York avg | U.S. avg |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Students per teacher | 14.5:1 | ▲ 23% | 11.8:1 | 15.7:1 |
| Free-lunch eligible | 58.7% | ▲ 4% | 56.2% | 51.7% |
| Enrollment | 448 | top 46% | - | - |
Source: NCES Common Core of Data School-level CCD + state/national means from Public School Universe · 2024-25
14.5:1
Leaner classes than 52% of US schools, a middle-of-the-pack class size.
448
Bigger than 55% of US schools by enrollment, mid-sized for the country.
Equity indicators (what these measure)
Economic need
58.7%
free-lunch eligible
- 4% above the New York average of 56.2%
Above the 40% Title I schoolwide threshold; federal funds support the whole school, not individual students.
Staffing depth
14.5:1
students per teacher
- 23% above state mean
Top 84% in New York - lower ratio than 16% of state schools
Close to the 15:1 benchmark most often cited for individualized attention.
Engagement
37.9%
chronically absent (missed 10%+ of school days)
At or above 20%, the commonly used threshold for "high" chronic absenteeism, signaling significant barriers to regular attendance.
Overview
- Common Core of Data (June 2026): enrollment, staffing, and the student-teacher ratio above.
- Civil Rights Data Collection: discipline counts and program access (AP, gifted, special education).
- F-33 School District Finance Survey: the district-wide per-pupil spending figures below.
Three separate federal collections, each on its own reporting cadence - which is why this school's numbers line up on a consistent basis against every other school and state on this site, rather than mixing figures pulled from different survey years.
Student demographics
Hispanic or Latino 44.9%
White 28.3%
African American 13.4%
Asian 8.9%
Two or More 4.0%
American Indian / Alaska Native 0.4%
Largest group: Hispanic or Latino at 44.9% of enrollment.
Student-body diversity index 69.1/100
Simpson diversity index - at 69.1, Ps 165 Robert E Simon is more mixed than the New York school average of 45.5.
How Ps 165 Robert E Simon Compares to District-Mates
| School | Enrollment | Economic Profile | Student-Teacher Ratio |
|---|---|---|---|
| Fiorello H Laguardia High School | Larger | Lower economic need | Similar S:T ratio |
| Beacon High School | Larger | Lower economic need | Similar S:T ratio |
| Ps 87 William Sherman | Larger | Lower economic need | Higher S:T ratio |
| West End Secondary School | Larger | Lower economic need | Lower S:T ratio |
| Jhs 54 Booker T Washington | Larger | Lower economic need | Similar S:T ratio |
Comparisons are relative to Ps 165 Robert E Simon's own figures; each column derives from NCES Common Core of Data.
Other Schools in This District
- Enrollment
- 2,251
- Students per teacher
- 14.9:1
- Resource Index
- 51/100
- Enrollment
- 1,372
- Students per teacher
- 15.4:1
- Resource Index
- 53/100
- Enrollment
- 751
- Students per teacher
- 17.1:1
- Resource Index
- 42/100
- Enrollment
- 722
- Students per teacher
- 12.7:1
- Resource Index
- 25/100
- Enrollment
- 720
- Students per teacher
- 13.8:1
- Resource Index
- 46/100
Similar other schools statewide
Matched by enrollment size and by staffing ratio across all of New York, not just this city - a different peer set than the local comparisons above.
Similar enrollment (~448 students)
Similar student-teacher ratio (~14.5:1)
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Frequently asked questions about Ps 165 Robert E Simon
How many students attend Ps 165 Robert E Simon?
Ps 165 Robert E Simon has 448 students enrolled. It is a public school in New York, NY.
What is the student-teacher ratio at Ps 165 Robert E Simon?
The student-teacher ratio at Ps 165 Robert E Simon is 14.5:1, which is 23% higher than the New York average of 11.8:1 and 8% lower than the national average of 15.7:1.
What percentage of students receive free lunch at Ps 165 Robert E Simon?
58.7% of students at Ps 165 Robert E Simon are eligible for free lunch, compared to the New York average of 56.2%.
What is the racial and ethnic makeup of Ps 165 Robert E Simon?
The largest demographic group at Ps 165 Robert E Simon is Hispanic or Latino at 44.9% of enrollment, in New York, NY. Its student body is more racially and ethnically mixed than most US schools, with a diversity index of 69.1/100.
What is the Resource Investment Index for Ps 165 Robert E Simon?
Ps 165 Robert E Simon has a Resource Investment Index of 26/100 (lower reported resources relative to schools nationally) based on 3 factors: student-teacher ratio, attendance rates. Not a test-score or academic measure (national median ~41/100, see methodology).
How does Ps 165 Robert E Simon rank among schools in New York?
By Resource Investment Index, Ps 165 Robert E Simon ranks #142 of 164 schools in New York, NY. This compares federal resource and staffing data among local peers; it is not a test-score or academic ranking. See all schools in New York on the city page.
Is Ps 165 Robert E Simon a good school?
Ps 165 Robert E Simon earns 26/100 on the Resource Investment Index, with class sizes larger than 84% of New York schools. It is also more racially and ethnically mixed than most New York schools. This is a resource snapshot, not an academic rating; see the Resource Investment Index question above for what the number does and doesn't measure.
What other schools are in New York City Geographic District # 3?
Besides Ps 165 Robert E Simon, New York City Geographic District # 3 also operates Fiorello H Laguardia High School (2,251 students), Beacon High School (1,372 students), and Ps 87 William Sherman (751 students). See the New York City Geographic District # 3 district page for the complete list.
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